Carbon tax will create new jobs and industries: Greens

Lets have a closer look at this fallacy thats being touted by the Greens and other lobbyists. Solar, hmmm not really economic as yet, all panels and technology are imported, minimal construction jobs, and minimal to no ongoing maintenance jobs. Wind power, all major parts imported, minimal construction jobs and next to nothing for ongoing maintenence opportunities. Both of these power sources are expensive providers of power. Thats why we are being taxed, to make them competetive with traditional power sources. They cant get finance from banks because they are not an economical business. THATS the long and short of it. So DONT tell me they are going to provide thousands of jobs and a new industry. You are full of the proverbial. We're providing a lot of jobs and income for overseas companies AGAIN.

Pat , think of all the administrative Bulls*it that goes with all these crazy schemes - Ju-liars delivery on unemployment!! More Government jobs !!But unfortunately still the same people pay for it - the Taxpayer

Christine I think you have been to the Juliaar school of lies and deceit For every job created in green jobs in Europe they have lost six You are just as dishonest as Ms Juliaar

I raise the following challenge: How about some legislation that restricts the activities of politicians to a limited use of our taxes? It appears to me that politicians have over stepped themselves when they claim to be experienced enough to make huge investment decisions with our money. Given the poor decisions and their administration failures during the GFC, I just don't see that their teacher's degree prepares them anywhere near to what is needed. Ten billion dollars slush fund to go where they see fit???? It wont happen. But what recourse have we, as the mere public, to discipline them when they fail? The ballot box just doesn't seem tough enough to me. What about a jail term for incompetance?

We have a tail wagging the dog. I knew that Julia would not be able to control the independants and the Greens. Until there is an election we will not get good government (if Tony Abbott is a better solution and I'm not convinced he is...) Until the ratbag parties such as the GREENs are voted out and put back in their cage its impossible to get good government. The GREENs are too narrow minded as a group. They have no concept of economy and the silent majority who pay for these schemes. The reason they can get into the senate is becasue they represent of the smallest and unproductive states. Chrsitine is a senator for Tasmania. Tasmania does not export or contribute to the wealth of Australia. Most of them are public servants. Very little industry in Tasmania yet they get equal voice on National Government. The minority government gives them a national platform and leverage. There will be nothing good for the economy or employment by the carbon tax. All we are doing is subsidising again!! Just like the Solar Bonus scheme not economical at all. Just pour in lots of dollars to overstimulate the fringe industries that can not stand on their own. Create an artificial economy and then removing all incentives at some time because its just unaffordable!!! Here we go again! Thanks to you Christine I now need a mortgage to pay my electricity bill and the carbon tax will drive my employer overseas so where is the increase in employment?

Oh dear, here we go again with another expanding load of green bullshit! What would that bloody stupiud ?woman know about creating jobs!! Nothing, mun less its to do with hiring another thousand useless public servant paper shufflers!! These repulsive communists disgiised in green condoms, hate jobs, manufacturing or success! They really are a mob of losers. Just listen to the mouthings of that imbecile with the double barrel name!! All this rotten money grab will do, is to send thousands more to the dole office! Whenever I hear those rejects from the broom factory flying school, I scream out the F word, as I run for the radio! It is not uttered as a request! The last few weeks have clearly demonstrated to all that this mob of half wits are nothing but scrammbled in the brain, lying corrupt useless worthless morons!! As for the crap about creating green jobs!!! Hey Stupid woman, how many good worthwhile jobs and businesses will be destroyed by you unemployable commo ego trippers! Hopefully, when ju LIAR calls for an erection, the citizens will cast them into the sewer of history.

What I would like to know (along I'm sure with a few million other Taxpayers/voters) is what is Milne's "greenies" going to get out of this - Ju-liar has introduced a Tax that is directed at assisting the environment - but what exactly - how many millions of dollars will actually be spent on improving/protecting /whatever the environment ? I have no issue paying for something providing I know what I'm getting for my money - Does Milne actually know ? or is it just accepted that as it's called a Carbon Tax it must be good for greenies? All I've seen mentioned at the moment is handouts to "low income" "Boat people" "Aid O'seas companies that are set up in Australia like GMH - Alcoa" and bragging rights for Ju-liar every time she go's o/seas and hands out another $250 million or so aka struggling Malaysians ,Indonesians etc. etc. which begs the question -was all this money budgeted or is it a case of we know we will be "pulling it in" through Carbon Tax -so we can now throw it around - bet Milne can't be too happy about that - there again it's not her money is it ??

I was hoping for some input from the political "class", of any variety, to offer some balance to the debate so far. Thankfully, Don Argus has seen fit to make a significant contribution in today's The Australian newspaper. Perhaps most of our politicians agree with his comments but have elected to keep their heads down for fear of opening up the difficult part of our debate. Apart from the climate change factors, in why the taxes are increasing, we also face an ever-increasing, referred to as unfunded liabilities, matter of superannuation for our public servants. This is the elephant-in-the-room problem that politicians seem to ignore. I keep seeing it; perhaps they don't want to?